The Old Adage Isn’t What It Used To Be

One would think that by now, Mr. Bush would have removed our troops from harms way in Iraq:


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3 Responses to The Old Adage Isn’t What It Used To Be

  1. Rick Crim says:

    The Secular progressive movement would love us pulling the troops out of Iraq. . Just about anything the U.S. Government has done in the anti-terror strategy department, the S-P’s vanguard, the ACLU has opposed.
    Osama would love that. Jane Fonda would love that. No explanation necessary. Iran and Syria would love that. Many in the Democrat Party would love that. But it would be a mistake. Removing our troops with the Iraq Government being as unstable as it currently is would be a disaster.

    The following comes from the bi-partison Iraq Study Group Report, James A. Baker, III, and Lee H. Hamilton, Co -Chairs
    Lawrence S. Eagleburger, Vernon E. Jordan, Jr., Edwin Meese III, Sandra Day O’Connor, Leon E. Panetta, William J. Perry, Charles S. Robb, and Alan K. Simpson.


    Because of the importance of Iraq, the potential for catastrophe, and the role and commitments of the United States in initiating events that have led to the current situation, we believe it would be wrong for the United States to abandon the country through a precipitate withdrawal of troops and support. A premature American departure from Iraq would almost certainly produce greater sectarian violence and further deterioration of conditions, leading to a number of the adverse consequences outlined above. The near-term results would be a significant power vacuum, greater human suffering, regional destabilization, and a threat to the global economy. Al Qaeda would depict our withdrawal as a historic victory. If we leave and Iraq descends into chaos, the long-range consequences could eventually require the United States to return.

    Considering the above, I agree. It’s going to take patience. Putting more pressure on the Iraqi Government, and immediate new approaches by the U.S., Iraq and others may be the answer.
    We must not allow the liberal U.S. Media, Hollywood Elites, Liberal Democrat politicians and others pressure us into doing something that would end up disastrous.
    Some conservatives are calling the Iraq Study Group, the “Iraq Surrender Group”. Let’s hope this doesn’t turn out to be accurate.

  2. Big Fella says:

    This is not an issue of liberals vs conservatives, check the polls, a cross section of both Democrats and Republicans have come to the conclusion that our “adventures” in Iraq were a mistake. The big question now, is how do we extricate ourselves without making the situation worse for ourselves or the people of Iraq.

    The war in Iraq is not about safeguarding us from terrorism, it is about oil, power, influence, and our strategic objectives in the region. Our withdrawal from Iraq is not about losing face, its about regaining some modicum of credibility and respect in the international arena and removing ourselves as a party to needless death and destruction.

    The hard-headed, “damn the torpedos, never quit” attitude of our administration has only resulted in an overabundance of death and destruction, and further disrespect and hatred of our country by the international community, whether it be the mainstream international community, or radical extremists. While we may have removed an evil tyrant, we have also precipitated total chaos in Iraq without any constructive thought or real commitment given to how we would “manage” a country in which we destroyed the infrastructure, and all govenmental and social institutions. We have worn out our troops and equipment and exposed our flanks in other areas.

    It is time to admit our mistakes and move on, to allow our military forces to recuperate, regroup, rebuild and re-deploy strategically covering all of our flanks.

  3. Rick Crim says:

    This “is” an issue of liberals vs conservatives. Who really needs to check the polls to understand that the vast majority of people that want us to prematurely pull out of Iraq are Democrats?

    Even though the Democrats control both the House and Senate, the Democratic plan to pull most American combat forces out of Iraq by next March – the first vote in either full chamber that would have forced an end to the war, failed to past the senate just last month. (Mar, 2007)
    I think our Senators spoke for the American people when they stopped this plan.

    If we really want to make the situation worse for ourselves or the people of Iraq, then we should pull our troops out now. That would harm our credibility with our allies and leave the people of Iraq to the wolves.

    Our reasons for going into Iraq was for weapons of mass destruction and a regime change. It’s not a question of if he had these weapons. Everyone knew he had these weapons. He used them to put a stop to the war he started with Iran because he was beginning to lose that war. He used them on the Kurds. The question should be now, is what he did with them? Did they end up in the hands of Syria? All he had to do was account for the weapons. The UN gave him plenty of chances to do that.

    Sadaam was giving $25,000 to the families of any suicide bomber that blew himself up killing Jews. He made a statue of the first female suicide bomber that did this.

    There so happens to be oil all over the Middle East. Just because we go to war against a fanatic that has been supporting terrorism doesn’t mean that we went to war for the oil that so happens to be there.

    Why should we worry about our credibility or respect from countries in the middle east that breed Islamic lunatics that want to kill every American and Jew they can get their hands on? I’m certainly not worried about how France, Russia or Germany think about us. Maybe they should be worried about how we think about them.
    One thing that would help our credibility would be for our liberal media to start reporting some of the positive things that are happening over there. The world has been hearing nothing but negative reporting from the media for some time now. I’m sure that they’re like many of us here. They are influenced by what they hear on TV and in the papers.

    When we were attacked at Pearl Harbor by Japanese Lunatics, our President Roosevelt recognized that for what it was. He went full speed ahead, damn the torpedoes because he knew we were in a fight for our lives.
    I think President Bush knows that we have been attacked by Islamic Lunatics and we’re also in a fight for our lives. I doubt that Roosevelt had an “Exit Plan” when he went after the enemy. The “A” Bomb came along and solved that problem for him. Which in my opinion saved many American lives from lunatics that strapped themselves to their airplanes on their suicide missions.
    (Let’s hope these Islamic Lunatics never get their hands on such a weapon. Without hesitation they would use it on us. Iran is currently working hard on this little project.)
    Children in Japan were taught to hate Americans and were trained to fight us once the evil Americans invaded their country. Children in the Middle east are taught to hate Americans and grow up ready to give their lives to kill as many of us as they can. This is taught all over the Middle East. Where the oil is.

    President Bush has said from the beginning, and continues to say that this war is a different war than we have ever fought and is going to take some time.

    We may need to make some adjustments in Iraq, but pulling out prematurely should not be one of them.

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